Advent Hope – Groundhog Day all over Again

Each year the liturgical calendar gets reset and we begin again with where it began. We know what is going to happen to Jesus at Easter, but each December we begin by retelling the story from the beginning, all over again.  We get a new chance like Phil the weatherman did in the movie Groundhog Day. We hope this year we get it right.

Phil (Bill Murray), a weatherman, is out to cover the annual emergence of the groundhog from its hole. He gets caught in a blizzard that he didn’t predict and finds himself trapped in a time warp. He is doomed to relive the same day over and over again until he gets it right. After indulging in hedonism and committing suicide numerous times, he begins to re-examine his life and priorities.

Like Phil, Christianity has been through its periods of hedonism and suicidal tendencies. In its hedonistic period, Christians have tried to force Christianity down the throats of others by the Crusades. Christians have murdered thousands during the Inquisitionswitch hunts, slavery, and sent others to hell by preaching hell and brimstone revivals in the United States.

Today we are in Christianity’s suicidal period. We are killing the hearts and desires of Christians and non-Christians alike with our hate for our fellow man.  Right now many people are declaring they no longer want to be called an evangelical Christian because the very term indicates that we are a restrictive, non-loving Christian whose desires should rule our government and churches. A nation that has chosen for president a man who either assaults women or who speaks as an adolescent boy who brags of doing so and who has actually had assault charges filed against him by his wife and others, along with 91 criminal indictments after his presidency.

In this suicidal period of Christianity, we have renewed our desire that women be controlled by husbands, men of the church, and all males. It is women who get the kids up for church each Sunday morning. It is women who will take their children to church and who do most of the Sunday school teaching in that church. It is women who are beginning to realize that their church does not love them as much as they love their church. When you kill off the ones who bring the children, you have committed religious suicide.

Such as our world has always been, it is now. But here we are. Beginning another Advent season where we are looking forward to the birth of a Baby who we will learn has come to turn the world upside down.  A Savior, the Christ, who will reveal to us that we are to love one another.

It is Advent – Groundhog Day all over again. We can hope.

It is 2023. What hope are you bringing to the church?

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Sunday Morning Escapism

Church on Sunday morning we put aside our family problems, go to Bible Study, and enter into Bible World. 

For a few minutes each week, we escape from the real life where we live and live in the past and try to solve their problems of thousands of years ago.  That was a long time ago, and nothing like what we live in today. Sure, they treated women awful and we know the Patriarchs had multiple wives, but that was Then.  We don’t live that way today.  

Or do we?  

We need to get our heads out of the sand.  The majority of Baptists and other Christians have no idea what is being taught and practiced in the real world around them. 

Their church libraries don’t tell them.  Their pastor won’t tell them.  Their Sunday school teacher will stick to the book and either doesn’t know, or won’t bring up the subject.  

The members remain ignorant.  Studying Leviticus or the Gospels, and keeping their heads in Bible World.  Completely unaware of the abuse in Christian homes, the Quiverfull theology, the patriarch movement, the Danvers Statement, who the Council on Biblical Manhood and Biblical Womanhood is, nor how it affects them. 

It does affect them.  They just don’t know it.  They don’t know that when their pastor tells them to submit to her husband, that he is quoting the mantra of the Danvers Statement; or when a woman tells her pastor that her husband wants her to have 10 kids, and she doesn’t, she is told that her husband is the leader of the family and if he wants her to have 10 kids, she is to do it. 

It affects them when their girls and boys are taught by their youth director who has been to a seminary that adopted the Danvers Statement.  It will affect their girls who are told that the boys are to be the leaders and that they can never be a deacon or a pastor. 

It affects them when their boys are told that all women, their girlfriends included, are created to be in submission to males. It affects them when their daughters suffer abuse even after submitting to her husband.

You, and every Christian, can be affected by the Danvers Statement, as is practiced and preached. 

That is what you should be told in Bible Study.  

See and hear the speakers at the Seneca Falls 2 Conference where we issued a Demand for an Apology from the Council on Biblical Manhood and Biblical Womanhood.  Tell others that we are fighting for women’s equality.

http://vimeo.com/14824926

(I’ve been in Sunday School for 60 years and know what I am talking about.  Bible Study should be about how we are to live today, but we spend our time judging the Bible characters and situations of the past, because we don’t want the lessons to get too close to home.  And, truthfully, it is hard to apply Leviticus to our lives today, for who doesn’t have polyester hanging in their closets.)  

  

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Advent Peace – What did the angels know?

Every year at Christmas we look at the world situation and wonder if the angels knew what they were proclaiming when they said “Peace on earth, goodwill among men.” We are not sure exactly what the angels did say as it is interpreted in many ways. The NIV version says, “Peace to those on whom his favor rests.” That sounds Calvinistic, but in the name of goodwill, today we will let that pass.

Since that is so, and because I am not a scholar, but an ordinary person reading the scriptures, I choose to read this meaning into those old familiar verses: The angels came to earth announcing the birth of a savior who is Christ the Lord. In proclaiming his birth, they were saying that God is Peace and has come willingly to the earth to be among men, and that he brings with him goodwill (that is to say, he does not bring harm to them.)

We usually take those scriptures to mean that there would be no more wars and strife and all would be joy now that Christ was born. The angels did not say that all would be rosy now. They called him Peace, and because of the great joy they have with the Father, they knew Who was arriving and they expected us to have the same great joy (Luke 2:10-11).

I think the angels may have given us more credit than we are due.

2023 is drawing to a close. But as we celebrate Advent again this year, we see a new beginning, a new year to get it right. A new year for peace in the church where both men and women are equal children of God.

(originally published 2016)

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The Biblical Marriage Myth: The Devil Comes Calling

The sun had not yet risen on September 4, 2023, when Dad wakes up after a good night’s sleep. He doesn’t know it, but a Bible Study was just sent out to his local officials, his governor, his state and nationally elected officials, a Bible Study that is deliberately intended to affect his marriage. His wife gets up and starts breakfast and begins to get the kids off to school, and she gets ready to go to work.

Another hectic morning. The coffee maker quit working, and there is no warm water to shower with because the hot water heater is on the blink, and Janie left her lunch at home. Mom and Dad are leaving for their jobs with just enough time to get to work. On her break, Mom will run by the school and give Janie her lunch, call the plumber to repair the hot water heater, arrange for a day off to meet them, and then stop by Walmart on her way home to purchase a new coffee maker.

It doesn’t have to be that way, of course. Mom could be a stay-at-home wife and mother with plenty of time to take Janie her lunch, get a new coffee maker and arrange for the plumber to fix the hot water heater. And if religious fundamentalists (complementarians) have their way, that is what Christian women will be doing. All in the name of God and what they say that the Bible tells them.

That morning, unbeknownst to families across the United States, on September 4, 2023, state and local representatives, governors, congressmen, and international political figures received their weekly Bible Study from Capitol Ministries. This particular Bible Study was by Ralph Drollinger in which he was laying out the dangers of women working outside the home.

The Bible Study that was sent out to all those elected officials suggests that Dad may have been sleeping with the enemy who is acting upon the direction of the Devil.

How to resist the schemes of the Devil” is the title and is published by 69 year old Ralph Kim Drollinger, an American clergyman and retired professional basketball player, and leader of the “White House Bible Study.” He lists three things under the heading Secular Humanism that elected officials must guard against and how the United States must resist against Satan: 1. Same-sex marriage, #2. Women’s Liberation, #3. The New Morality.

Number 2 on his list tells governmental officials that women who are working outside the home are playing into Satan’s scheme to destroy the family and the United States.

#2. Women’s Liberation

“Satan knows that if he can get women out of their intended complementary role to their husbands that he will own the next generation. And that is exactly what is happening in America today. Children desperately need their moms’ attention so that they are not hooked by Satan’s schemes of drugs, sex, slothfulness among other sins, in their formative years, which then often destroy their later productive years. The Women’s Liberation movement largely disconnects God’s plan for child incubation and catechism. Again, if Satan can destroy the family, he can destroy the nation.”

Drollinger is saying that wives are to be submissive to their husbands, (complementary role) have a brood of kids (incubation), stay at home with the kids (Mom’s attention), and teach them how to be Christians (catechism), and if wives do not do that, Satan will come into families and will destroy the family and will also destroy the nation.

WOW! Mom, you have the whole world in your hands. Other than fathering the kids, what responsible part does Dad play in this imagined scenario? What if he wants Mom to work? Who is listening to the Devil now?

Is your married daughter listening to Satan when she works outside the home, or is she helping with finances in her home, and using her God-given abilities, education, and talents to do so? Perhaps she a single mother doing the best she can to make ends meet.

It doesn’t seem to matter to Drollinger why you, your daughter, or your wife works outside the home. What matters to Drollinger is that he claims that women are listening to the Devil when they step outside the home to work. And by listening to the Devil they are destroying families, marriages, and civilization.

Located in Washington, D.C., Capitol Ministries’ long-term vision is to create 200 ministries in 200 foreign nations; 50 ministries in 50 state capitols; ministries to all three branches of government in Washington, D.C.; and 10,000 ministries in 40,000 neighborhoods across America.

Take a moment to think about this. What do they want the United States government, and your local government, and international governments to do about the Devil coming into your home via your working wife? Do they want all women to quit working for pay? What laws will they support being made to bring this about? How does this affect your family? Perhaps this is the Devil you should be worried about.

Ralph Drollinger is bolstered in this belief that the Devil is out to destroy civilization through your working wife by Dr. Wayne Grudem, the architect of the Danvers Statement on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood that was introduced to the world of Christianity in 1987. It was accepted by all Southern Baptist seminaries, both Baptist and non-denominational churches, and other faith based entities. It is the defining statement of faith by the Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood (CBMW).

A quick look at the website of the Bible Study shows us what Grudem thinks of this Bible Study: “I am happy to support the excellent work of Ralph and Danielle Drollinger and Capitol Ministries.” Well, I guess he would be glad, since it reflects what is listed on the CBMW website.

Beginning Chapter of my latest book: The Biblical Marriage Myth: The Devil Comes Calling

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The Church no longer answers as Peter did

The sermon was from Luke 9:20 and as the members of First Baptist Church filed out, I am sure most were in complete agreement with Peter’s answer. At least they thought they were.

But I had a different understanding during the sermon. I, too, have heard this sermon many times, but this time it struck a different note with me. I realized that the answer Peter gave is what most think they would say, but most people sitting in that church have let the church tell them something else entirely different about who Jesus is.

The people were confident in their belief that they would answer as Peter did. But this church, like most SBC churches, is known by its by-laws, its organization, and its mission in the exclusion of women from pastoring, preaching, or even being a servant deacon, and they cannot answer like Peter did. In fact, most Southern Baptist churches and members cannot answer this question like Peter did, because they have redefined what “Christ of God” means.

  1. Southern Baptist churches have accepted the current sexual definition of Jesus as being represented by the husband in families. Mary Kassian, an influential Southern Baptist speaker, said “I will long to unite with my husband physically (have sex) to symbolically honor my spiritual longing for Christ.”
  2. Southern Baptist churches have demoted Christ to the point that He shares headship with husbands. Baptist Faith and Message 2000: Article XVIII of the BF&M states, A wife is to submit herself graciously to the servant leadership of her husband even as the church willingly submits to the headship of Christ.”
  3. Southern Baptist churches have allowed husbands and pastors to supersede the gospel. If the words in 1 Timothy are absolute that women cannot teach men, then husbands cannot change that prohibition simply by their presence or agreement that their wife can teach males. As reported in Baptist Press News: “While some believe 1 Timothy 2:12 and related passages prohibit women from teaching the Bible to any coed adult group in the church, others say “a woman can teach a mixed audience as long as she does so under the ‘headship’ and authority of the pastor/elders and her husband.”

Let’s look back at Luke 9:20. Jesus had just asked his disciples “Who do people say that I am?” They had answered with ‘Elijah, John the Baptist, or one of the other prophets.’ But the people had it wrong. Jesus was none of these.

Then Jesus asked the disciples, “But who do you say that I am?” Luke 9:20 “But what about you?” he asked. “Who do you say I am?” Peter answered, “God’s Messiah.”

  • Is Jesus the ‘husband having sex’ as Mary Kassian claims?
  • is Jesus the ‘co-head of women’ as the Baptist Faith and Message 2000 says?
  • is Jesus willing to let men ‘change the rules by their presence and word’ as many complementarians believe?

If husbands are in the ruling line of authority, this would make Jesus a wife’s Father-in-law.

 What about you? Who do you say Jesus is? Is Jesus the Christ in God, or is he your Father-in-law?

This post is a repeat of my November 13, 2015 post. Websites are no longer posting the material.

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How complementarians make little-man gods. Conclusion. Part 9

Many scriptures in the Bible cannot be understood as written. But one scripture, 1 Timothy 2:15, has theologians, seminary professors, and pastors creating a separate step that women must take in order to enter into heaven. Men can simply ask for forgiveness for their sins and accept Jesus Christ as their savior. But certain complementarian Christian leaders are introducing a new element into salvation for women. So great is their desire to keep women subordinate, that they have reached into salvation itself and changed the way women are saved.

“But women will be saved through childbearing – if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety” (1Timothy 2:15).

Bruce Ware, a founder and prominent member of the Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood and a professor of Christian Theology at Southern Baptist Theological Seminary where Al Mohler is president, uses this scripture to change the way women accept Christ as their savior. What Ware says is shocking and you must read it carefully. Look for two things: 1) that women cannot become Christians (submit to God) until they accept the fact that they are not men; 2) Ware’s elevation of earthly men by putting a man as a factor in a woman’s salvation.

Read Ware’s words in the following interview as reported by Bob Allen, then a reporter for ethicsdaily.com. Allen quoted Ware when Ware spoke at a church in Denton, Texas:

“Ware also touched on a verse from First Timothy saying that women “shall be saved in childbearing,” by noting that the word translated as “saved” always refers to eternal salvation. “It means that a woman will demonstrate that she is in fact a Christian, that she has submitted to God’s ways by affirming and embracing her God-designed identity as—for the most part, generally this is true—as wife and mother, rather than chafing against it, rather than bucking against it, rather than wanting to be a man, wanting to be in a man’s position, wanting to teach and exercise authority over men,” Ware said. “Rather than wanting that, she accepts and embraces who she is as woman, because she knows God and she knows his ways are right and good, so she is marked as a Christian by her submission to God and in that her acceptance of God’s design for her as a woman.” (originally located on the ethics daily website but no longer available)

We remember that in Genesis 3:4, Satan tempted Eve with the fruit by telling her that God knew that their eyes would be opened and they would be like God, knowing good and evil. God was the ultimate Being, there was none like God. Now Ware claims that women want to be men and I find his comments very disturbing.

Ware says that women’s salvation depends upon their denouncing their desire to be men. In this way, Ware has elevated men on earth to the status of God on earth. This doctrine diminishes God and elevates man to the status of earth-gods. In addition, Ware is claiming that women are still seeking to be as God just as the serpent said in the Garden of Eden (only now it is an earthly man-god that Ware claims women desire to be). My message to these complementarians: It is not women who desire to be God.

Ware is not the only seminary professor who subscribes to the belief that women must first bow to human males before they can be saved. James (Jim) Hamilton, Professor of Biblical Theology at Southern Baptist Theological Seminary (SBTS) where Bruce Ware is a professor, says the same thing as Ware. Before coming to SBTS, Hamilton served as Assistant Professor of Biblical Studies at Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary’s Houston campus and was the preaching pastor at Baptist Church of the Redeemer. This connects two major Southern Baptist affiliated theological seminaries with Ware’s theology.

Hamilton says, “All women must embrace their role as women and bear children, and if they do so in faith they will be saved.” Hamilton continues, “And I agree with Schreiner and others on the point that Paul wants women to embrace what it means to be female, and he has chosen childbearing as an example of something that only women can do. This doesn’t mean that single women or barren women can’t be saved, but they should by faith embrace what it means for them to be women.”

Note that Hamilton says that a woman must be willing to embrace childbearing (what it means to be female). Thus, these words by Hamilton make a woman’s salvation dependent upon a human male, because it is only human male sperm that can impregnate a woman. Hamilton says the woman also has to put aside her so-called yearnings to be a male and accept the fact that she doesn’t measure up. That is so far away from Jesus, that it astonishes me that a professor who believes that way can teach in a Christian seminary. http://jimhamilton.info/2011/06/15/is-eve-a-type-in-1-timothy-215-some-thoughts-on-typology-and-biblical-theology/ June 15, 2011.

Not all complementarians believe that a woman must denounce her desire to be a man, and then have sex or be willing to, in order to be saved. Tom Challies is often quoted and he weighs in on 1 Timothy 2:15 by saying that the scripture means that women in general have been given the chance to redeem Eve’s sin by bearing children (have a baby and be good theology). Challies says, “There is good warrant to expand the word childbearing here so it points not just to the act of giving birth, but to all that Paul has just discussed a couple of verses earlier—godly womanhood. In the wider context of the passage Paul is referring to the whole of a woman’s calling within the family, within the church, within the world. She is to embrace godly womanhood, to be who and what God has created her and called her to be. She is to fight against that tendency to usurp authority that is not hers.” (“Saved through childbearing” June 7, 2011)

(They wonder why people have stopped going to church. Maybe it is because of this kind of ungodly theology!)

According to complementarians, Godly womanhood is totally dependent upon human males. It is solely a woman’s relationship to a man that determines whether or not she is exhibiting Godly womanhood. Depending upon which complementarian you believe, 1) women are saved by having a baby and denouncing their desire to be men; or, 2) women have a chance to redeem all mankind by having sex and giving birth to babies and not usurping authority from males (or at least have the desire to have sex with a man).

It appears that Ware, Hamilton, and Challies believe that a woman’s salvation is dependent upon the sex act by a man inserting his seed into the woman. If this is the case, then it is as if he has inserted his godliness (giver of salvation) into her; or if she has no male to have sex with (marriage does not come into the picture), she must be willing to have sex with a man (because sex is the way children are conceived), and it is only then that she, or mankind, can be saved.

The one thing all these men have overlooked is that Jesus was born of a virgin, and that would signify that men no longer would have saving power for women. Of course men never had saving power for women in the first place, but why let a few facts get in the way of demeaning women.

If they do not believe it this way, then why are they saying it? There is no justification for making such outrageous statements about women. There is no justification for making women’s salvation different from a man’s salvation. It is their desire to be man-god – the giver of salvation – that compels them to do this.

Can you imagine Jesus telling women that in order for them to be saved, they must denounce their desire to be men, and then be willing to have sex with a man?

Pastors, you who have studied the Word, do you have no understanding of what you are saying! How is it that you do not understand that in your desire to elevate man, you have diminished God? My soul, my heart, cries out for to you to repent. Do you not see your own desire to be God?

Exodus 20: 1-5 “I am the Lord your God, who rescued you from slavery in Egypt. Do not worship any other gods besides me. Do not make idols of any kind, whether in the shape of birds or animals or fish. You must never worship or bow down to them, for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God who will not share your affection with any other god!”

Go back in this post and read what Bruce Ware said. Pay particular attention to the paragraph ‘Saved through childbearing’ that I have copied below.  This is what I have been talking about in my book Dethroning Male Headship, and Women Equal No-Buts: Powered by the same Source, and now this blog series, How complementarians make little man-gods.

Bob Allen says, “Bruce Ware, professor of Christian theology at Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, suggests that “women will be saved through childbearing” in 1 Timothy 2:15 should be taken literally, noting the Greek word translated in the New Testament as “saved” always refers to eternal salvation.”

And there you have it! Little man-gods. God is the giver of life and salvation, and now Christian professors claim men have that same power.

Complementarians have given man this power over life (planting his seed) and salvation (saved thru childbearing because of that life-giving seed planted inside her).

And, by the way, if you believe what Bruce Ware says 1 Tim 2:15 means, you can forget all about the other ways Christians believe you can be saved, Calvinists included (which Bruce Ware is). The little man-god has you covered.

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How complementarians make little man-gods. Part 8

Southern Baptists used to believe that salvation came about when a person, child or adult, man or woman, answered the urging of the Holy Spirit, and repented of their sins, which was called accepting Christ as their personal savior. This is better expressed as personally accepting Christ as their savior, because otherwise it sounds as if we have chosen Christ to be our valet.

This expression more than likely came about by Protestants who do not believe in infant baptism. However, the way it is said “accepting Christ as your personal savior” seems to indicate that Christ is yours, instead of the other way around. Personally accepting Christ affirms that you as an individual made the decision to follow Christ instead of your parents doing that for you.

What must I do to be saved? Acts 16:30-31 “He then brought them out and asked, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?” They replied, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved—you and your household.”

About the time of Evangelism Explosion, the Sinner’s Prayer came into favor across the world, and forms of it were used by Billy Graham and Campus Crusade for Christ, and televangelists. (Remember, Evangelism Explosion’s author was Presbyterian.)

There is a Baptist megachurch near my home that I am familiar with so I went to their website to hear what he preached on last Sunday and to listen to his invitation for the congregation to get right with God because Jesus is coming soon (possibly because of the Hamas-Israel War that is taking place right now). He asked those who wanted to get right with God to pray with him what I recognized as being the Sinner’s Prayer.

Baptists along with other evangelicals, latched onto this method of bringing people to Christ. Pastors began asking those who came forward to accept Christ to say the Sinner’s Prayer. It was usually like this, “Lord Jesus, I know that I am a sinner and I do not deserve eternal life. But, I believe you died and rose from the grave to make me a new creation and to prepare me to dwell in your presence forever. Jesus, come into my life, take control of my life, forgive my sins and save me. I am now placing my trust in you alone for my salvation and I accept your free gift of eternal life.”

Baptists reaffirmed this prayer in June 2012 by this resolution, “We affirm that repentance and faith involve a crying out for mercy and a calling on the Lord (Rom. 10:13), often identified as a ‘Sinner’s Prayer,’ as a biblical expression of repentance and faith,” the resolution said.

But it added, “A ‘Sinner’s Prayer’ is not an incantation that results in salvation merely by its recitation and should never be manipulatively employed or utilized apart from a clear articulation of the gospel (Matt. 6:7; 15:7–9).”  This was added, in part at least, because David Platt, a Calvinist Southern Baptist, said that this prayer was superstition. Platt later became the president of the Southern Baptist Convention’s International Mission Board from 2014 to 2017.

This prayer was brought to vote in 2012 because it was felt that the Sinner’s Prayer does not bow to Calvinism, and many fear that Calvinism is taking hold in Southern Baptist churches. A major disagreement is that Calvinists believe that God predetermines or predestines who will be saved, and the other half of Southern Baptists believes that each person has free will to either accept salvation or reject it.

In fact, the pastor of a First Baptist church posted this blog on his non-Calvinist church website in November 2013 which says: “We can argue the merits of Calvinism. But of this we can be certain. Those who call on his name shall be saved. Whether you believe God has predetermined whom he will allow to call on his name or not, know this. If you call on his name, you will be saved.”

That statement by that pastor contradicts itself, and is very confusing. He says that it might be possible that Calvinists are right and that God had already predetermined if you are going to heaven or hell, but if you or your friends call on God’s name, you and they will be saved. He leaves out the part of what if you or your friends are not predetermined to go to heaven.

What this pastor means is that he leans toward Calvinism, and that you or your friends cannot call upon God for salvation unless you have been predetermined to be one of the elect. So, if you cannot call upon God, that means you will never be denied because you cannot call on God in the first place. (I am not Calvinist and do not believe that God made certain people predestined to go to Heaven and certain people predestined to go to Hell. That is not how I see God.)

If you were to ask a Baptist sitting in a pew today how to be saved, this is what you would be told, “When the invitation is given, go forward, the pastor will take you by the hand and will ask you if you are accepting Christ as your savior. You say yes, they will pray with you and it is done.” Baptism will follow if and when you decide to be baptized, but baptism is not a part of the salvation process. Male and female salvation was always the same.

That is the way it used to be. And that is still the official way Baptists and other evangelicals are saved.

But a new element has been introduced, and even though it is not a part of a church’s “altar call” or “invitation to receive Christ,” it is what is being taught to young preachers. The next post will explain.

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How complementarians make little man-gods. Part 7

Remember this series is headed toward complementarians changing the way women must be saved by making little man-gods. What does God do? Creation (procreation fits here for man-gods) and salvation.

As you have guessed by this time, it depends upon which faith denomination you want to be saved in. Saved means you are going to heaven, and not hell. Do people even talk about “being saved” anymore?

Anyway, today we will discuss the Calvinist part of salvation that is believed by Southern Baptists. Remember, my background is 53 years of active service and dedication and belief as a Southern Baptist.

Presbyterians used to be a very common faith denomination and every city and town had a Presbyterian church. My father was born into a Presbyterian family and was baptized as a baby in the late 1800s. He became a Baptist and was a licensed minister, pianist, and deacon in a little Baptist church which he helped start as a mission church, and our family never knew him as a Presbyterian. I never met a person who I knew was a Presbyterian until recent years.

Baptists and Presbyterians have long had a commonality with John Calvin who shaped the Presbyterian faith, and Baptists who follow this are called Calvinists. Many Baptists are Calvinists, and more are becoming so. Calvinists are a very strict, conservative sect operating within Baptist churches. Many Southern Baptist Seminaries promote their Calvinist leanings. Russell Moore, Al Mohler, Bruce Ware, Wade Burleson, and many other Baptist Christians that you might recognize are Calvinists. I insist on repeating over and over: I am not a Calvinist.

Baptists who subscribe to Calvinist doctrine, (they also operate under the umbrella of the Southern Baptist Convention), believe that in the womb God decided if you were destined for heaven or hell, and thus Baptists use the term “once saved, always saved (from the womb forward),” which gives assurance to many Baptists, and causes unbelief by others. Baptists often use the words “if they were truly saved” which most do not understand that this, too, comes from the Calvinist view because it means that perhaps they were not chosen for salvation before birth.

If I were Calvinist, I would be out fishing today instead of writing this.

But I am not, so here I am with a section that is far too long so I will divide it up one more time in which we will continue the discussion of how Southern Baptists are saved.

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How complementarians make little man-gods. Part 6

Every Christian faith persuasion has its own doctrine about salvation. It is important to learn how other faiths teach that people come to individual salvation. We will give their faith persuasion because you will not be informed properly unless you understand the process in churches around you. Remember, we are all using the same Bible, and we all believe salvation comes through the death and resurrection of Christ. At least most Christians do even though that is being challenged by some theologians.

Below is a simplified explanation of the salvation process. The person walking down the aisle toward the pastor to accept Christ most likely has no idea of the theological complexities of each faith denomination, and truthfully they don’t have to know anything except that are responding to the desire within themselves to be saved. At this point in their lives they probably have no idea what living for Christ means, and certainly have not formed deep theological expressions of faith.

Churches of Christ believe that individuals make their profession of faith and that they must be baptized in order for salvation to be complete. Catholics, Lutherans, Episcopalians, Presbyterians, and Methodists baptize infants in the trust that those babies and children will later make their decision in confirmation classes or through life decisions.

United Pentecostals believe that people are not saved unless he or she speaks in tongues, and is baptized in Jesus’ name, and, as expressed above, they also believe that the promise in Acts 2:38 means that if a person is baptized in Jesus’ name, that is a promise that they will be saved at some time in their life. Assemblies of God rose out of the United Pentecostal faith, believing that when a person is saved they are sanctified, but do not have to speak in tongues in order to be saved, even though speaking in tongues is common among them after salvation.

Presbyterians follow John Calvin (1564) with one of the strangest salvation process of them all.  Calvinists believe that God allows certain people to call on Him and accept their predestined salvation.

“Calvin defines predestination as ‘God’s eternal decree, by which he compacted with himself what he willed to become of each [person]. For … eternal life is foreordained for some, eternal damnation for others.’ So predestination is an act of God’s will through which God elects or chooses those whom God calls to faith and thus to eternal life, and through which God chooses those who will not receive faith. Other theologians have seen in predestination only a positive calling to eternal life. Still others have seen it as God’s foreknowledge of who would choose faith.” (John Calvin – b.1509-d.1564)

You can see from this statement by John Calvin that he actually says that God creates certain people to be damned to hell. What kind of God is that? It is not how I see God, and some Presbyterians are beginning to question that concept of a Heavenly Father.

Others believe that salvation is a process and that you are not actually saved until you die. Catholics believe in a purgatory where salvation can be delayed until certain conditions are met.

Baptism is connected to salvation, either in a two-step process for salvation (one pastor told me I was living on borrowed time because I had not been baptized) or as a symbolic act. Generally baptism follows a personal decision to follow Christ. Most churches baptize in the name Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Some faiths believe that salvation is a two-step process, and is not complete until the person is baptized. Some faiths baptize both infants and adults. Some faiths, Baptists included, baptize very young children.

Most faiths will baptize adults after the adult has expressed a belief in Jesus Christ as savior. Some churches will not accept another denomination’s baptism for a person wanting to joing their church and that person must be baptized again. Note that the number of baptisms are at a 30 year low all across Christianity.

Some Christian faiths believe salvation can be lost, and if a person falls from grace, that person must be saved again. Relatively few people feel the need to be saved again, so even if it is a church’s official doctrine, few practice it. It used to be fairly common for Baptists to “rededicate their lives” as opposed to having to be saved again, because Baptists believe in “once saved, always saved” which is an adaptation from Calvin’s predestination belief that if God has preordained you for salvation, you cannot lose that.

Nicodemus asked Jesus how could he be saved (John 3:1-21). Today Christians ask how to be saved and the answer “It depends upon which denomination or Christian group you are in.”

Keep reading the coming blogs because we are going to show you how complementarians have changed the very act of salvation

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How complementarians make little man-gods. Part 5

We look to God for our spiritual selves and for our physical selves. This is expressed through salvation and also through daily living. We will discuss salvation and how complementarians change salvation for women.

Evangelism Explosion by Dr James Kennedy has long been used as a handbook for eager church members to use when they made visitation calls to people in their neighborhood, or to people who had attended a church service and made the mistake of leaving their name and address. Evangelism Explosion, 1961, is now in its fourth printing and is still a bestseller among evangelicals.

When Kennedy wrote the book, he was the pastor of Coral Ridge Presbyterian Church which began as Presbyterian of the United States of America, which allows women ordination to be pastors. In 1978, under Kennedy’s leadership, Coral Ridge joined the conservative Presbyterian Church in America that does not allow women ordination.

According to Wikipedia, “Evangelism Explosion’s materials have been translated into seventy languages. Jeff Noblit (I am not sure why he is quoted) suggests that it is “probably the most used and copied soul-winning training course ever embraced by Southern Baptists,” while Stan Guthrie suggests that it is “the best known and most widely used evangelistic training curriculum in church history.” It is currently used by over 20,000 churches worldwide.”

“If you were to die tonight, are you certain you would go to heaven?” was a question we were to ask when witnessing to a prospective convert. There were other key points made when I studied the book at my Baptist church in the 1970s. I, too, wanted to know how to bring a person to accept Christ. One such key point was to look around the living room and pick out a picture and make some comment about it that you could use to start the conversation about heaven and the person’s spiritual condition.

Never being very clever at espionage, and being far too direct in my approach, this did not fit my personality. I can see through manipulation a mile away and was sure others could, too. In fact, one day a few years ago, I was in a Christian bookstore and had just asked if they carried a children’s book that accepted the fact that dinosaurs were here millions of years ago, when these questions were turned on me. I wanted to tell the young lady that I thought her approach was awfully crude (and rude) and was straight from the book. But I was much older, and it was my lunch hour, and most times I do not want to draw attention to myself, so I let her ask her questions and I answered them.

Yes, I am confident that if I die tomorrow, my soul will be with Christ. As I write this, I am aware of how fleeting life is. One day I was with a woman when she received a phone call that her daughter had just been killed in a car accident. So the question can fit every one of us, but it is not the best way to bring up a conversation about a loving God who wants to save us.

My personal salvation experience was that I accepted Christ while kneeling beside the bathtub one night while the baby was asleep and my husband was watching the election returns on television. Nobody asked any questions, and there was no prepared sentence that I said back to Christ. I did argue with Him, though. I had been baptized two times already, and still did not feel like I was saved, and I wanted some kind of assurance that this time would be for real, because I sure did not want a third baptism if there was no salvation. Sufficient to say, there was a third baptism, and this time there was no doubt, and has not been since that time 60 years ago.

But this series is not about me. It is about men who have the Desire to be God, and how they are infiltrating that desire into mainstream Christianity. They are doing it through the relationships mankind has with God – salvation and daily living.

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